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Conservative Commentary

by Ed Donath

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© Copyright March 28, 2010

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"It makes no census to me, Mom."                                                    RSS feed 


Talk to the hand, US Census Bureau!

Reading the questions on a 2010 census questionnaire took me all the way back to that year (it must have been 1960) when my mother designated me as the filler-outer of the census form for our household. 

 

Knowing what I know now, I'm not sure whether Mom's motive was to give me a hands-on civics lesson or just to save herself some brain damage.  In any case, half a

Wanna talk to the hand?

century later, I still remember many of the questions -- perhaps because some of them were so odd to an apartment-dwelling PS 139 sixth grader.

 

Questions on the 1960 form about bathrooms and plumbing (or the lack thereof) and hot water made the least sense to a boy whose lifelong residence was Apartment 2H in a 96-unit building at 280 E. 21st Street, Brooklyn, NY.  My mind also recalls a questionnaire section concerning radio, TV and appliance ownership, but a check here proved my long-held memory faulty.  Give me a break...it was 50 years ago.

 An excerpt from the not-so-politically correct 1960 US Census Questionnaire...

Is this person - White, Negro, American Indian, Japanese, Chinese, Filipino, Hawaiian, Part Hawaiian, Aleut, Eskimo, (etc.)?  ____________________

How many rooms are in your house or apartment? (Count a kitchen as a room but do not count bathrooms) Number of rooms ____________________ 

Is there hot and cold running water in this house or building? (Check one)
       Hot and cold running water inside the house or building.........................  O
       Only cold running water inside.............................................................. O
       Running water on property but not inside building..................................  O
       No running water................................................................................. O 

Is there a flush toilet in this house or building? (Check one)
         Yes, for the use of this household only.................................................. O
         Yes, but shared with another household................................................ O
         No flush toilet for the use of this household............................................ O 

Is there a bathtub or shower in this house or building? (Check one)
        Yes, for the use of this household only.................................................. O
        Yes, but shared with another household................................................ O
        No bathtub or shower for the use of this household...............................  O 

 

The giant furnace in the basement boiler room of our six-story building would crap out occasionally and we'd be left without hot water for a while, so of course I knew all about washing up in cold water.  But my friend Charles Alt would always figure out a way to get it working again.  Mr. Alt was the aged superintendent of Two-Eight-O.

 

Mr. and Mrs. Alt hated the "new-fangled" television and refused to own a TV.  But they had this huge Stromberg Carlson cabinet model radio that could tune in Tokyo without even going to short wave and I was often invited into the Alt's living room to listen to Gabriel Heater's 6PM news report.  Heater, apparently, had been a radio anchorman since the days of Marconi.  In my mind he was no John Cameron Swayze but I trusted Mr. Alt's judgment.

 

Between my dad bringing at least two New York papers home every night (there were still about five major dailies in the City back then) and Mr. Alt turning me on to Gabriel Heater, it's no wonder that I grew up to be a news junky.

 

For the most part, while the quarters were extremely close, our three-room apartment had all the comforts of home -- including an indoor bathroom and a black-and-white television set in the living room near my parents' Castro Convertible sofa bed.

 

Old-fashioned steam heat apartment radiator.

Those old-fashioned steam heat radiators in each room threw off so many BTU's that we had to sleep with the windows cracked open in winter.  To this day I've never lived or stayed anyplace where the toilet flush pressure was higher than it was in our Brooklyn apartment.  And the fluoride-free tap water tasted as pure as any bottled spring water I've ever tried, although it tended to run rusty whenever there was a major fire in the neighborhood that required extensive use of the fire hydrants.

 

We also knew plenty about peeing outdoors because the last thing any of us was about to do in the midst of a Ringalevio marathon or a stickball game was run home to use the bathroom.

 

While it was difficult for a ten-and-a-half-year old to understand, 50 years ago, why our government needed to know about the modern-ness of people's plumbing, it is just as difficult for many Information Age adults to understand, today, why we even have to waste the money to conduct a census anymore.

 

Is it the temporary jobs? Is it the extra work and revenue for the Postal Service?  Is it a gerrymandering plot (especially now that the Bureau of the Census has been moved into the White House)?  Or is it just Big Brother trying to convince us that he hasn't been monitoring nearly every aspect of our lives since the last census and couldn't possibly figure out anything about us if we don't send in those dopey questionnaires?

 

It's times like these when a high-pressure flush toilet might come in handy.

                                                                                         

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Once in circa 1970 The question was 'How many bathrooms (restrooms) in your home?' I asked but was never told why this was important to the head count. Sorta like it is these days...."What's your Breed?"....

 

gas hog

Austin, TX American-Statesman


Wow, eddobloggo how did you get way down here? Nice post.

 

Liberty4USA

Montgomery, AL Advertiser

[I took up space in college.  Now I'm a cyber-cosmonaut. -ED]


Good post Ed! 

 

Livia

Palm Desert, CA


The census is so easy to fill out. What questions are so odd?

 

hartlynn

Salem, OR Statesman-Journal

[So you don't mind me asking if you've got a sense of humor? -ED]


CNN was talking about all the confusion. One lady said she was born in Puerto Rico, but wasn't Puerto Rican. She said she is Cuban, White, and not Hispanic. Another lady complained that there was no box for Hispanic African Americans, just one or the other. My partner and I went with Gay American because we were born Gay in America.

 

GayMessiah

Palm Springs, CA Desert Sun

[If I had spotted the "optional comments" section I would have written them a rant. Hey, I DID! -ED]


I found this blog to be an insight into who you are. Enjoyed it very much.  Write another one when you are as old as me. It will be just as interesting to see what you have to say 10 years from now about life and the next census.

 

Mythinking

St. Cloud, MN Times


Ah, the good old days... When I was a kid we lived in a place so small it would fit in my living room and kitchen today. I don't live high on the hog either. We had 3 channels on a 13 inch tv and they all came in fuzzy. If we didn't have a ball to play with, we made one out of whatever we had handy. Usually Paper, tin foil and tape. The radiator pinged like a hammer hitting an anvil. If that didn't keep us awake, the old diesel locomotive across the street would rattle you out of bed at all hours. Most importantly though, we were happy. I believe kids these days are being short changed if they can't experience something similar. Those were the best of days...

 

jetflyr

Wausau, WI Daily Herald

[Thanks for the tactical air support jet. Good to know there are others who remember the good old days. -ED]


I got a letter saying the Q was on the way, then I got the Q, then I got another letter asking me why I hadn't sent the Q back.

Also, they want your birth date and phone number. Not going to happen!

 

zagreb

Palm Springs, CA Desert Sun


LOVE YOUR BLOG keep it up!

 

Anonymous

Montgomery, AL


"Why we even have to waste the money to conduct a census anymore". In 1787 The USA became the first nation to make a census mandatory in it's Constitution. In 1810 Congress decided to gather additional information (other then just the numbers).

I filled out the census this year and I must say it was pretty simple and was done in a few minutes.

Dang ole Constitution is the cause of all of these problems. "Now, let's see, Can I count my dog? - No!, that is for IRS purposes only". malark

 

mostlymalarkey

Wausau, WI Daily Herald

[Hey malark, could you cite the part of the Constitution that says "...and the administration of the census shall be in the hands of the president's chief of staff"? Also, it doesn't say anywhere that the Bureau of the Census should send at least three mailers, advertise on TV and send an $11/hour temp to hand you the questionnaire. (for starters) -ED]


excellent blog... again eddobloggo! Save our country should be the theme - we as a country are on the brink of total collapse.

 

Bret

S. Cairo, NY


I found this post, eddo, incredibly touching in some ways, taking me back to my own years growing up.

As for my census this year, I think I said this elsewhere, but I put down the number in my household and our names since that's easily discovered, and then I wrote in "See U.S. Constitution" to every other question, including my phone number and race, and mailed it back. If the Feds don't like it, they can bite me.

 

novelator

Great Falls, MT Tribune


Can anyone tell me why the census really needs to know our names and phone number? I thought the purpose is for a head count. I didn't answer those questions. I suppose I'll just pay the $100.00 fine for not filling those out!

 

ntaldbrk

Tallahassee, FL Democrat

[If they can find you to give you the questionnaire and then track you to coerce you to comply, why do they need you to tell them anything? -ED]


I just couldn't wait to get my hands on this years census with all those---who gives a flying frak questions.  But lo 'n behold, I didn't get the bathroom questions or which side of the bed I sleep on.  My questionnaire was relatively reasonable.  Nothing crazy.  But going back to 1960, 1970 and on, all I can remember is someone coming to the door and asking how many people live in my apartment.  Yeah, like you I lived in an apartment building in the Bronx.  A 5 floor walk-up, cold water, searing heat---when it was working, usually when we didn't need it---and all the rest.  I went to PS 80 from k-6.  From there I went to JHS 80 from 7-9.  Same school, same place, why they changed the designation?  Go figure.  Great blogging.  Brought smiles to my face. 

 

unclebarry

Cathedral City, CA


 

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