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Conservative Commentary

by Ed Donath

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Will the cost of a user blog subscription cause you to go back into your pre-blogging darkness?

For many of you, the day you were afforded the opportunity to post your own opinions and respond to the opinions of others at your local newspaper's website was a life-changing event; a coming out of the darkness so to speak. 

 

It is likely that, ever since that day, hundreds of your fellow bloggers have read some or all of the thousands of written words you have presented -- and vice versa. 

 

It is likely that you and/or some of your fellow posters are read by more visitors at your hometown newspaper's website than are any of its paid bloggers.  Certainly, on any given day, community bloggers are quite likely to amass a greater number of comments than the aforementioned.

 

Thus far, other than being required to endure daily barrages of pop-up and pop-under ads plus nightly ad-spam blog attacks and the onslaught of selfish, Pluck is the software used by Gannett Newspaper websites to enable reader participation in community forums and user blogs. bandwidth-wasting blog hogs, exercising your right to rant at these Pluck-powered websites has been a walk in the park; a freebie, at that.

 

Though I am not privy to the precise date that your paper will suddenly require you to become a paid subscriber in order to blog at its website, I can tell you with first-hand certainty that at least two of the chain's major outlets ("major" judging by the logged number of referrals to this website that originate from them) The Greenville News and the Tallahassee Democrat, have already done so. 

 

Here is a facsimile of what now appears at these websites when you attempt to log in to perform a blogging function.  It is what you will probably see on that fateful day when your own favorite newspaper goes pay-for-play...


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As a capitalist and a strong advocate of free markets, I offer no criticism of newspaper companies that choose to do what they think they need to do to survive and thrive.  However, as ostensibly advertising revenue-based businesses, it appears that the collective Gannett sales department may have dropped the ball.

 

Granted, our horrendous economy and the decidedly anti-commerce Obama administration have made it extremely difficult for advertisers to maintain or ramp-up their advertising budgets. In addition, as we have known for quite a few years, many people with Internet access no longer subscribe to the newsprint editions of their local newspapers.

 

Nonetheless, if management perceives that there are enough prospective-subscriber visitors at the user-participation pages of their websites to neutralize Internet ad revenue sluggishness, then one might logically deduce that there are also a great many untapped advertisers who would want their messages to be displayed before us.

 

If the economy is essentially responsible for the Gannett papers' ad revenue crisis, will strapped consumers even be able to make up the difference? Would consumers consider paying for services that have, until now, been free -- especially with money being so tight these days?

If, ultimately, you choose to hang up your newspaper website blogging shoes, where will you go as an alternative?  Hopefully, it won't be back into the darkness.

Will the cost of a user blog subscription cause you to go back into your pre-blogging darkness?

Back into the darkness?

 


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Interesting. Newspapers have to make money somehow. I can't say that I am for it. The web will still offer other opportunities to blog and a blog could reach a wider audience. That is why I spread my blogs out through different sources. Thanks Ed!

 

JimCarver

Mansfield, OH News Journal 


Ed...You are quite correct.  It is coming.  I have had an interesting few years writing "Right Turn" for Florida Today  The editorial staff is as far left as you can get.  Anticipating my likely coming departure, I started my own blog...

 

Jim Manely (Gabriel)

Rockledge, FL


There's no free lunch, Ed.

 

DaveMuckey

Salem, OR Statesman-Journal

[But it's pretty easy to glom a free breakfast in a hotel lobby these days. -ED]


It is a tough time to be in the newspaper biz.

In addition to being able to get the info free on the [web], (So why subscribe) advertising revenue is down and I've heard that getting paid for advertising already sold is getting tougher. The Times has asked for payment up front from regular customers, so you know they have been burned.

Recessions aren't much fun.

 

Zippit

St. Cloud, MN Times


The movement toward online subscriptions began, and was warned of, long before Obama took office.

 

Myrnia

Des Moines, IA Register

[That's true. Do you think the press will flip because they got him elected and now there's no money left to bail them out? -ED]


How about blogspot.com? easy to register and free.
Tis changing times and disturbing times....good luck all

 

rocco0607

Great Falls, MT Tribune


...newspaper blogging, as done at the nj, has been a delight for me, with no real constraints for me, other than my own, and they've been mostly well-received.

would i miss the privilege? yes.
would i pay to write a newspaper blog? no.
there are far too many free outlets.

thanks for the heads up.

 

aloc102

Mansfield, OH News Journal 


Good rant Ed. Unfortunately even newsie types have to eat as well. I subscribe to the Statesman and enjoy it's online edition as well. Although I can get all the news I need via computer.

I agree there will come a day where people will find a blurb exactly as you described (pay or go). Hopefully the printed edition will not cease to be published.

 

gas hog

Austin, TX American-Statesman


Isn't communication pretty overrated when the fables we see from the media pass as "news" anyway. We'd probably be a little better informed if we had to work and judge data rather than the opinion of the media for ourselves. Take the nose rings out people.

 

deminn

St. Cloud, MN Times


I've seen readers from one of the locked papers posting on other Gannet sites...a short term solution.  Eventually I think the private sites are going to do very well, as someone said, "even newsies have to eat."  True but over the last few years I've found many good writers who aren't on someone's payroll, congratulations for being ahead of the pack.

 

Grumpyelder

Brevard County, FL  Florida Today

[I'm looking forward to the day when I can be on my own payroll, Grump. -ED]


I've wondered if and when this might happen...

 

GreyCaravel

Montgomery, AL Advertiser


I believe that losing a blog spot because the owner can not keep up with the costs would be a lose lose for everyone.  As a total addict of the view points of my fellow citizens. I would happily contribute to keep the blog alive, especially one run by a 100 year old publication like the Saint Cloud Times.

 

Anonymous

Minneapolis, MN


Not trying to take away from your blog...but... this is not new. Wait until you have to start paying just to view a website or watch a YouTube video.

In 2005, the New York Times tried this. Asked its online readers to pay for opinion and comment pieces. Dropped it after a revolt. This has just happened to the Times in London... pay to view.

Would I pay to play? Not on this site. Really who would on any site? Seems to me... only those who are making money doing it.

 

fourscore

Mansfield, OH News Journal


Meh. At this point I'm not bothered a bit by this direction. I'm not responding much to blogs anymore. Mostly because people are rude and obnoxious when disagreeing with others. Same goes for the comment section of articles. GF Tribune drops comments whenever they don't like the theme of the comments (although I do expect explicit derogatory comments to be removed).

 

horsedreamz

Great Falls, MT Tribune


One solution is...if they charge a fee to access online blogging, I will simply cancel my subscription to the AZ Republic in protest.

 

richiephx

Phoenix, AZ Arizona Republic


They [the media] got him elected? He's anti-free enterprise?  Are there any wingnut themes that you don't parrot, eddo?

BTW, thanks for the heads up. I actually think it's a good thing. There are way too many wackos - mostly on your side of course! - who love to spout off without saying anything of substance. If they had to pay a little bit, then perhaps the
[names local nuisance posters] of the world would go away, and folks like you and some of the other reasonably intelligent righties would be left... er.. would remain.

 

IowaGuy

Des Moines, IA Register

[The "themes" are based on the realities. -ED]


I believe that your post (if it happens) will be the "final straw". The bloggers at the DH have (pretty much) stopped writing. I know a number of them and most have gone south and only post once in awhile. There are times that a blog will remain at the #1 or #2 spot as no one else is blogging. I stopped because - well just because. The DH does not do too much of the pop-ups or stupids ads that get in the way, but their circulation is down and the paper will soon be one page printed on one side. This form of the written word (and the attempt to move it to the computer) will not be successful and they are currently trying to figure out how to stop the bleeding - but they are trying to communicate in a by-gone era that does not transfer well into my computer. I keep renewing my 3 months to the DH and am at the point that it is now really worth the cost. Yesterdays, Sunday paper, was a good 5 minute read. Some days the paper is not worth looking at. Might as well catch the headlines on the net (for free - at least for now). Sort of going the way the 5-track tape deck went and the hard line wired telephone is going. Nice post Lombago.

 

mostlymalarkey

Wausau, WI Daily Herald

[While my current commentary isn't specifically about your particular chunk of cyberspace I can tell you, through my log's referral stats, that there are more unique visitors' eyeballs on these reader blogs than you might think. IF all of those regulars kicked-in it might make a difference. But it's a big if -- especially if a catchy promotion doesn't call attention to the selling points of the community forums (namely that you and I are there to butt heads). But thanks for the thumbs-up today.  5-tracks?? You are an old geezer! I only remember 8-tracks. -ED]


And if ANY publication needed this to happen, it's this one. This will slow down the "playground bully" stuff that seems to have taken over the blog section...Thanks for sharing Ed.

 

bigaztejas

Palm Springs, CA Desert Sun


Some things are worth spending time on, some things are worth spending money on, and some things are not. Luckily we live in a free country where everyone is allowed to try to do what is best for them.

 

rainbowed

Great Falls, MT Tribune


Thanks for the heads up post eddo.

If/when this does occur here, I feel certain that many, if not most, of our familiar screen personalities will disappear and fall silent, and those who choose to pay to remain will not be read by as many.

 

UknowIknowU

Montgomery, AL Advertiser


If the TDS improved this site I would pay. But this is not the greatest news source.  To be honest it sucks at news. Thanks for the News Ed...good post.

 

catmandu

Palm Springs, CA Desert Sun


Just because Gannett and the other greedheads want and wish to charge for these things doesn't mean that they'll be able to successfully do so. Remember, Rupert Murdoch predicted we'd paying for most of our online content by 2005...

Too late to close the barn door at this point...

 

baikal

Austin, TX American-Statesman


I've been wondering how long that would take. Personally, I think newspapers should charge something to be accessed online. Most major newspapers now will only allow certain features to be read for free...you must subscribe to get major features and the classifieds. As for just charging the bloggers, I don't think THAT is cool...we supply a lot of interest to readers. But I do think EVERYBODY paying something will keep the newspaper alive...obviously, people aren't buying the physical paper anymore, and we NEED a local news source. I wish that would alleviate the need for those annoying pop-up ads, but let's face it...it won't. I guess it's not a perfect world.

 

Dawncoyote

Palm Springs, CA Desert Sun


I read the DH sports pages once in a while, my wife does the Xword some times, My Mom reads the commics, none of us read the news stuff. We have discussed dumping the DH for about the last 15 years, as we all found the Left slant and PC hard to take years ago. But hey, I am sure they are doing the best they can with what they have. Out side ownership I am sure didn't help. Last week my wife finally decided not to renew (She calls the shots). I will not miss it even though my wife and I were on the front page in November 1989 our loyalty has long passed. It would be a wrong move to charge for opinions and comments as most are not worth the paper or cyberspace they are printed on. The DH should just fold if the time comes to consider this option as it is already the end for news paper media. Charging people for blogging and comments would just delay the inevitable. I will miss the blog stuff, I do enjoy the give and take even though Malarkey always gets in the last word. P.S. the Feds are trying to get their hooks into email to save obsolete Post office jobs. Good thing they didn't do this for wheelwrights and 8-track workers. Firemen on trains and GM workers got lucky though, you never know.

 

oscarthepig

Wausau, WI Daily Herald


I would not pay to blog when I can do so for free on numerous other sites but if they wanted me to pay to read the online version I would not object. Having said that, if I'm paying for a newspaper subscription I would fully expect access to the online issue to be included in the subscription fee.

 

Marmalady

Palm Springs, CA Desert Sun


Most newspapers started out charging for online access. then they wised up and realized that the revenue came from the ads not the online subscription fees. Charging bloggers for access will just reduce online readership.

Charging for online access to a newspaper or a blog is stupidity personified.

 

zagreb

Palm Springs, CA Desert Sun

[Stupidity or not, ad sales are weak -- perhaps the weakest link. -ED]


...Rupert Murdoch kicked off the pay-to-play trend awhile back. I've been an online Times (of London) subscriber for ages, but am now being kicked off unless I pay. For some online content I would be willing to put out, but the Times is no longer a great newspaper.

It will be interesting to see how this business model works. For a long time newspapers' profit, if there was any, was generated by advertising rather than paid subscribers.

 

beobservant

Salem, OR Statesman-Journal


For once eddo, I agree with you! Gosh this is killing me to admit it!A s much as I dislike your constant Obama bashing I defend your right to express yourself. In fact, silly me, I believe that the free exchange of many ideas is what makes this country great. Even if I disagree with something I find that I learn from the exchange with others, and sometimes I can even be persuaded to change my opinion. If we must pay to blog, discussions will dry up overnight except for those who are rich, fanatics or both. One thing about the blogging communities is that it makes us think and is incredibly diverse. Sorry to see that this may be coming. End of free press. I have also heard that many sites are now demanding posters and bloggers use their real names and no more "screen names". This is also a death knell for free speech. I am very much against this as it is a fact that many educated men and women use screen names to discourage stalkers that may attempt physical harm or post terrible things about them for no good reason, thus destroying their business or professional credentials. This is especially true if posting for or against controversial subjects such as abortion, homosexual rights or politics. Even though such postings are untrue they may unfairly destroy someone's reputation or credit rating. Someone does not like Americans right to rant.

 

Shinelight

St. Cloud, MN Times

[I appreciate your honesty and certainly your agreement...although I think that I went pretty light on opinion in this case in favor of being merely a messenger.  That said, there are other rights and freedoms that are also in jeopardy -- and certainly not by private enterprise. If/when those are gone, there will be no alternative website at which to regain them at any price. -ED]


I agree with your post, I'm just surprised it took this long for the newspaper companies to do it.  I personally believe that blogging brings people to the website, that it has its' own value.  But newspapers need revenue.  Like any business, they'll look for extra profit centers inside their own.  If it costs them viewership, they'll need to reverse course at some point.

 

Anonymous

Wausau, WI


The problem is, for every source of news that does charge, there are an untold number that are free.

This is a test...it will fail because the internet is about the free flow of information, no matter how inaccurate.

Newspapers have rendered themselves irrelevant because they are no longer objective and report news...they have agendae. I can go anywhere to read fantasy, or, just create my own. I don't need to pay to read it on the internet.

 

jimnaustin


There are other places to blog, so if the WDH decides to start charging people to do it, I think they'll quickly find the number of bloggers here dwindling.

Also, I think that the ability to post comments on news articles is part of the draw of the (ad-supported) website. If commenting costs money, too, then I can see the website's traffic dropping off. I know I wouldn't bother coming here as often, if at all. Will enough people pay the subscriber fees to offset the lost ad revenue from the decreased traffic?

 

Brom845

Wausau, WI Daily Herald


I fully understand Tallahassee Democrat's reasons for trying this experiment. $9.95 is not a lot of money but I feel that with the amount of money that [they] make on advertising that they can still offer free services to the public. I am happy to have found your blog  on this thread. I hope to find some of my old TD friends and detractors here as well. Thanks eddo.

 

Anonymous

Jacksonville, FL

[I'm glad you found me, as well.  I hope to keep you as a regular.  Thanks. -ED]


 

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